Showing posts with label Sex "Stuff". Show all posts
Showing posts with label Sex "Stuff". Show all posts
Thursday, September 30, 2010
Sick,Sex, Church "Stuff" (Eddie Long)
YOU CAN'T STOP BIRDS FROM FLYING OVER YOUR HEAD, BUT YOU CAN KEEP THEM FROM BUILDING NESTS IN YOUR HAIR!
Friday, September 24, 2010, 8:55:54 PM Ray Hagins
This past week has been a time of reckoning for many thousands of "believers" and church goers! The alleged claims of sexual misconduct against Bishop Eddie Long has caused many people to adopt several postures in order to appease their need for peace of mind.
One of the postures that has been taken by many people is that of practical atheism. A practical atheist is one who knows that God is, and has a deep love and devotion for the things of God; but because they have been disillusioned by, or disappointed in, the behavior and conduct of one who they perceive as a "man of God" (God's messenger or representative), they compulsively decide that they don't want to have anything else to do with God, church, or church folks! Unfortunately, there are more practical atheists in our society than we realize.
Another posture that is being taken by many is the "no one is perfect" defense. I have heard more references to David's sin of murdering Bathsheba's husband (Uriah) this week than I have heard in my entire life. Of course, people have a need to secure their indoctrination (their faith) because this is the very foundation of their existence, and therefore will find a way to explain that God's "mercy and grace" looks beyond (and even excuses) the wrong things that we do. After all, David was "a man after God's own heart." But what is NOT emphasized is that even though David was supposedly "a man after God's own heart," God had some very harsh consequences for David's actions. These were: (1) "Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house..." (2)Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun. For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun." (3) "because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die." The ONLY thing that God did do for David was spared his life (because he was "a man after God's own heart"). (And of course, this is from the premise that there was really a David and Bathsheba to begin with!)
And yet another posture that many are taking is "we ought to be walking in truth anyway." What is meant by "truth" here is coming out of the closet and no longer hiding what you know is and will be unacceptable to others.
So understand that when I say, "you can't stop birds from flying over your head," I mean that people are going to think whatever they want to think and say whatever they want to say. There is absolutely nothing that anyone can do about that. In fact, if people didn't do that I would think that there is something wrong with us. People running their mouths is just as natural as fish swimming...that's what they do! This is why publications like The Globe and The Enquirer are strategically placed at check out counters in every supermarket in the country. So, to expect people to be silent about what is going on in the lives of others (especially those who are considered to be "leaders") would be denying reality.
One of the lessons that my parents taught me during my teenage years was, "as soon as you stand above the crowd you become a target for those in the crowd...simply because you are above them." Every "leader" needs to understand this fact. As long as you are among the crowd, people are not aware of you or what you do because you are just another person in the crowd! In fact, people are not even really interested in you on that level. Think about it! Have you ever been in a crowd of people? Were you really concerned with the life, deeds, activities, etc. of the other people in the crowd? No, you weren't! In fact, you were most likely concerned with one thing...and one thing only...and that was navigating your way through the crowd. But now imagine your seeing someone (literally) hovering above the crowd that you are in! Immediately all of the attention gets focused on the particular individual because he (or she) is above the crowd.
Being above the crowd is a laudable position to be in. It is a place of honor. And it should be a place of humility. I say this because even though being in a position of leadership is considered to be an "above the crowd" position, it is the crowd that is responsible for your being in a position above the them! Many "leaders" today have forgotten that the only reason why they are "leaders" is because people have chosen to follow them. It's not because they are so great or intelligent, but because someone saw a quality in them that caused that person to choose to put their trust in that other person's leadership. This is something that is sacred and should be taken very seriously.
So, what is our responsibility as "leaders?" And for the sake of clarity, when I use the term "leaders" I mean those who operate in the capacity of being an example for others to follow by the life we live and by the things we say (e.g., being above the crowd). Every boy needs a man to provide an example of manhood for him to emulate. Every girl needs a woman to provide an example of womanhood for her to emulate. That is God's design for our development.
In like manner, those who have accepted the challenge of leadership must remember the fiduciary responsibility that we chose to accept. A fiduciary is someone who, of his own free will and accord, has undertaken to act for and on behalf of another in a particular matter in circumstances which give rise to a relationship of trust and confidence. Even when those whom you have chosen to devote your life to doesn't return such devotion, the obligation to maintain character is still there! I will never forget the day that my mother and teacher said to me, "Ray, being a pastor means loving people enough to let them hurt you so that you can help them." That was a period in my life when I wanted to lay aside my character and say a few words to some backstabbers (birds flying over my head BIG TIME). But my character as a leader mandated that I not lower myself in such a way.
When people make their allegations (and they will), that is simply birds flying over your head. But when they actually build nests in your hair that means that their allegations are true (or at least based in fact). One of the requests that I have continuously made of the members of The Afrikan Village & Cultural Center International is "please do not give our enemies any ammunition to use against us." All leaders have enemies! I repeat, ALL LEADERS HAVE ENEMIES!" It comes with the territory! And there is one common characteristic that enemies have...they want to destroy you! They WANT to see you fall. The most common method of enemy activity is called character assassination with (usually) bogus and unfounded allegations. And trust me when I say it can come as an onslaught. And it sometimes causes damage to those who are weak minded enough to listen and feed into this kind of enemy activity. So, all leaders should prepare for and expect the birds to come.
But, once the birds have built the nests in your hair...meaning that the allegations are, in fact, true...then THAT'S another thing all together! In these situations, it is the crowd that I am most concerned with! Not the person who violated the crowd's trust, but the many thousands of people who may become wounded to the point that they will never trust another "leader" again. This is the message in the story of David and Bathsheba. David had a responsibility to those in his kingdom, and that was to protect them...not use his position and power to strategically orchestrate the death of a man so that he could have his wife. This type of planning revealed what kind of heart David had.
Many people have asked me what do I think about the situation with Bishop Eddie Long. My answer to the question is I think it is tragic! I have talked to several people who have first hand knowledge about many of the things that have been going on there (I was told) "for at least the last 18 years." And each of them have said to me that this stuff should have come out long ago. And if what I have been told is true, then I agree that this should have come out long ago.
Nevertheless, my concern is for the thousands of people who will be wounded by this travesty. It's time for change! But, unfortunately it often takes a tragic event to propel change into our environment. Like it or not, a change is coming and many people will never be the same again. I think that the rippling effect of this issue is going to reach far beyond Bishop Eddie Long to other prominent ministers and musicians as well. But the thing that terrifies me the most is that the result will only be an eye opener for thousands of people and nothing more. Sometimes things happen to force us to see what we previously chose not to see, but that does not necessarily mean change. It simply means that certain things cannot be denied any longer. If there is one thing that I have learned over the last 12 years it is that there is none so blind as he who WILL NOT see!
In closing, never forget that your enemy has a gun aimed at your head just waiting for you to give him the ammunition that he needs to blow your head off. Therefore, your task is a very simple one...don't do ANYTHING that will give them the bullet that they want. Be sure that they are only shooting blanks (making noise). That's a good thing because it is the best and most effective form of advertisement. Your enemy thinks that they are hurting you while they are shooting blanks (even though their ignorance makes them think its real ammunition). They don't even realize that they are drawing more attention to you. So, as long as you KNOW you haven't done wrong, then take advantage of their focus on you so that people can see what you are really about.
But when the allegations are true...then it's time to step away...make restitution...get whatever treatment you need for how ever long you need it...and then get yourself back on track. And after all that...if it's not too late...then come back
Friday, September 24, 2010, 8:55:54 PM Ray Hagins
This past week has been a time of reckoning for many thousands of "believers" and church goers! The alleged claims of sexual misconduct against Bishop Eddie Long has caused many people to adopt several postures in order to appease their need for peace of mind.
One of the postures that has been taken by many people is that of practical atheism. A practical atheist is one who knows that God is, and has a deep love and devotion for the things of God; but because they have been disillusioned by, or disappointed in, the behavior and conduct of one who they perceive as a "man of God" (God's messenger or representative), they compulsively decide that they don't want to have anything else to do with God, church, or church folks! Unfortunately, there are more practical atheists in our society than we realize.
Another posture that is being taken by many is the "no one is perfect" defense. I have heard more references to David's sin of murdering Bathsheba's husband (Uriah) this week than I have heard in my entire life. Of course, people have a need to secure their indoctrination (their faith) because this is the very foundation of their existence, and therefore will find a way to explain that God's "mercy and grace" looks beyond (and even excuses) the wrong things that we do. After all, David was "a man after God's own heart." But what is NOT emphasized is that even though David was supposedly "a man after God's own heart," God had some very harsh consequences for David's actions. These were: (1) "Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house..." (2)Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun. For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun." (3) "because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die." The ONLY thing that God did do for David was spared his life (because he was "a man after God's own heart"). (And of course, this is from the premise that there was really a David and Bathsheba to begin with!)
And yet another posture that many are taking is "we ought to be walking in truth anyway." What is meant by "truth" here is coming out of the closet and no longer hiding what you know is and will be unacceptable to others.
So understand that when I say, "you can't stop birds from flying over your head," I mean that people are going to think whatever they want to think and say whatever they want to say. There is absolutely nothing that anyone can do about that. In fact, if people didn't do that I would think that there is something wrong with us. People running their mouths is just as natural as fish swimming...that's what they do! This is why publications like The Globe and The Enquirer are strategically placed at check out counters in every supermarket in the country. So, to expect people to be silent about what is going on in the lives of others (especially those who are considered to be "leaders") would be denying reality.
One of the lessons that my parents taught me during my teenage years was, "as soon as you stand above the crowd you become a target for those in the crowd...simply because you are above them." Every "leader" needs to understand this fact. As long as you are among the crowd, people are not aware of you or what you do because you are just another person in the crowd! In fact, people are not even really interested in you on that level. Think about it! Have you ever been in a crowd of people? Were you really concerned with the life, deeds, activities, etc. of the other people in the crowd? No, you weren't! In fact, you were most likely concerned with one thing...and one thing only...and that was navigating your way through the crowd. But now imagine your seeing someone (literally) hovering above the crowd that you are in! Immediately all of the attention gets focused on the particular individual because he (or she) is above the crowd.
Being above the crowd is a laudable position to be in. It is a place of honor. And it should be a place of humility. I say this because even though being in a position of leadership is considered to be an "above the crowd" position, it is the crowd that is responsible for your being in a position above the them! Many "leaders" today have forgotten that the only reason why they are "leaders" is because people have chosen to follow them. It's not because they are so great or intelligent, but because someone saw a quality in them that caused that person to choose to put their trust in that other person's leadership. This is something that is sacred and should be taken very seriously.
So, what is our responsibility as "leaders?" And for the sake of clarity, when I use the term "leaders" I mean those who operate in the capacity of being an example for others to follow by the life we live and by the things we say (e.g., being above the crowd). Every boy needs a man to provide an example of manhood for him to emulate. Every girl needs a woman to provide an example of womanhood for her to emulate. That is God's design for our development.
In like manner, those who have accepted the challenge of leadership must remember the fiduciary responsibility that we chose to accept. A fiduciary is someone who, of his own free will and accord, has undertaken to act for and on behalf of another in a particular matter in circumstances which give rise to a relationship of trust and confidence. Even when those whom you have chosen to devote your life to doesn't return such devotion, the obligation to maintain character is still there! I will never forget the day that my mother and teacher said to me, "Ray, being a pastor means loving people enough to let them hurt you so that you can help them." That was a period in my life when I wanted to lay aside my character and say a few words to some backstabbers (birds flying over my head BIG TIME). But my character as a leader mandated that I not lower myself in such a way.
When people make their allegations (and they will), that is simply birds flying over your head. But when they actually build nests in your hair that means that their allegations are true (or at least based in fact). One of the requests that I have continuously made of the members of The Afrikan Village & Cultural Center International is "please do not give our enemies any ammunition to use against us." All leaders have enemies! I repeat, ALL LEADERS HAVE ENEMIES!" It comes with the territory! And there is one common characteristic that enemies have...they want to destroy you! They WANT to see you fall. The most common method of enemy activity is called character assassination with (usually) bogus and unfounded allegations. And trust me when I say it can come as an onslaught. And it sometimes causes damage to those who are weak minded enough to listen and feed into this kind of enemy activity. So, all leaders should prepare for and expect the birds to come.
But, once the birds have built the nests in your hair...meaning that the allegations are, in fact, true...then THAT'S another thing all together! In these situations, it is the crowd that I am most concerned with! Not the person who violated the crowd's trust, but the many thousands of people who may become wounded to the point that they will never trust another "leader" again. This is the message in the story of David and Bathsheba. David had a responsibility to those in his kingdom, and that was to protect them...not use his position and power to strategically orchestrate the death of a man so that he could have his wife. This type of planning revealed what kind of heart David had.
Many people have asked me what do I think about the situation with Bishop Eddie Long. My answer to the question is I think it is tragic! I have talked to several people who have first hand knowledge about many of the things that have been going on there (I was told) "for at least the last 18 years." And each of them have said to me that this stuff should have come out long ago. And if what I have been told is true, then I agree that this should have come out long ago.
Nevertheless, my concern is for the thousands of people who will be wounded by this travesty. It's time for change! But, unfortunately it often takes a tragic event to propel change into our environment. Like it or not, a change is coming and many people will never be the same again. I think that the rippling effect of this issue is going to reach far beyond Bishop Eddie Long to other prominent ministers and musicians as well. But the thing that terrifies me the most is that the result will only be an eye opener for thousands of people and nothing more. Sometimes things happen to force us to see what we previously chose not to see, but that does not necessarily mean change. It simply means that certain things cannot be denied any longer. If there is one thing that I have learned over the last 12 years it is that there is none so blind as he who WILL NOT see!
In closing, never forget that your enemy has a gun aimed at your head just waiting for you to give him the ammunition that he needs to blow your head off. Therefore, your task is a very simple one...don't do ANYTHING that will give them the bullet that they want. Be sure that they are only shooting blanks (making noise). That's a good thing because it is the best and most effective form of advertisement. Your enemy thinks that they are hurting you while they are shooting blanks (even though their ignorance makes them think its real ammunition). They don't even realize that they are drawing more attention to you. So, as long as you KNOW you haven't done wrong, then take advantage of their focus on you so that people can see what you are really about.
But when the allegations are true...then it's time to step away...make restitution...get whatever treatment you need for how ever long you need it...and then get yourself back on track. And after all that...if it's not too late...then come back
Sick, Sex, Church "Stuff" (Eddie Long)
What Have We Become?
Monday, September 27, 2010, 10:36:35 PM Ray Hagins
Sunday I tuned in (as did thousands of others) to hear what Eddie Long was going to say. After having to watch more than an hour of what I didn't tune in for, he finally emerged with his wife. This, in and of itself (in my opinion), was an act of disrespect to the thousands of people who were there because (if we would be honest) EVERYONE wanted to hear only one thing...and one thing only...and that was what they had waited all week to hear him say. This man talked for almost 25 minutes and STILL DID NOT SAY the 4 words that his audience was craving to hear. He knew that these thousands of people, who love him and arrived as early as 5:00 a.m., stood in line for hours to be sure to get a seat up close and personal. They did not come to hear a sermon! All they wanted to hear him say was..."I DIDN'T DO IT!" If he had said just those 4 words, his followers would have left with the strength and determination to stand with their leader. BUT HE DID NOT SAY IT! And based on what I have come to learn...HE COULDN'T SAY IT!
As I watched and listened to Eddie Long making his comments to (as he said) "the world," I was absolutely infuriated by the words that he had the unmitigated audacity to say. After a rambling discourse on "How To Handle Painful and Difficult Situations," this person opened his mouth and said, "I have never in my life presented myself as a perfect man." WHAT!?!?
It's real simple Eddie Long! You have been accused of molesting 4 young males. (Only you and God know how many others. According to discussions that I have had with people who are very close to this situation and its history, it is expected to be as many as 35 to 40 others who are expected to come forth. But, FOR NOW, it is only 4!) And the first thing out of your mouth is..."I have never presented myself to be a perfect man!?!?!?" It would have been more appreciated and not as insulting to our intellect if you had pleaded the 5th and said, "Due to the fact that this matter is in litigation, I decline to make any statements at this time on the grounds that it might incriminate me." At least that would have been a more intelligent statement than..."I am not a perfect man." Eddie Long incriminated himself with those words alone and everyone knows it!
Now, let's deal with the words "a perfect man" for a moment...
According to the theological perspectives that are taught in Christianity, the idea or concept of being "perfect" (teleios) means being "full grown, adult, of full age, mature." It has absolutely nothing to do with being flawless. So, by saying "I am not a perfect man," Eddie Long is saying that he is NOT "full grown, adult, of full age, mature?" According to the precepts of theological thought, the very position that Eddie Long (and every other pastor) holds mandates him to be "perfect" (teleios). Now, Eddie Long (as well as every other pastor) is fully aware of what I just explained in this paragraph. The average church member may not know this...but pastors do! So, his own words have disqualified him to hold the position that he now holds.
Furthermore, we all need to understand that there is not a "man" on this planet who, if accused of molesting 4 male youth, would not IMMEDIATELY say, "I did NOT do that." He would say this first and foremost...NOT..."I am not a perfect man!" Come on people, if you would only stop idolizing for 3 seconds, your spirit would say to you, "there's something wrong here, and it's not these young males who have filed these charges."
Now, with reference to these young male victims (because this article is really not about Eddie Long), let's take a closer look at these young males and the unjust attacks of "church folks" toward them! All eyes are on Eddie Long...but what about the young males who have come forth and unveiled the embarrassing, horrific, tragic, and damaging acts committed against them? What about the emotional and spiritual state and well being of these young males? How dare ANYONE say..."WE ARE WITH YOU BISHOP?" Who is with these young male victims? I have heard people (young and old) in support of Eddie Long say, "I believe him" or "That man loves his wife" or "We shouldn't be judging him." WHO IS SHOWING SUPPORT FOR THE YOUNG MALES WHOSE LIVES HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY DAMAGED BY THIS PREDATOR? WHY AREN'T YOU "SAINTS" REACHING OUT TO THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU! THESE ARE OUR CHILDREN! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IF AND WHEN YOU FIND OUT THAT ONE OF HIS VICTIMS WAS YOUR SON OR GRANDSON? (Okay, let me stop shouting...)
As a pastor and therapist, I have counseled far more young men than I care to remember who have been victimized by religious leaders or people in leadership positions in the church. Many of the victims that I have counseled became perpetrators of the very horror that was inflicted upon them. In fact, 7 out of 10 sodomizers were sodomized in their pre-teen and teenage years by someone they trusted? So, when it comes to these young male victims of Eddie Long...Are you concerned about their healing? Or are you so blind that you think that these young men brought this on themselves and they got what they deserved?
This evening I was in a restaurant (not to far from Eddie Long's church) and overheard one lady say, "These young people today are so fast and loose that they probably brought this on themselves because Bishop is a man of God." I was glad that I had already eaten my meal because at that point I had to leave. This is why I am angry --- because of people like her who compulsively see Eddie Long as their Christ (even though they would never admit to such).
As previously stated, I have talked to several people who have first-hand knowledge of the events and tragedies that have been taking place at New Birth for "at least 15 years or more" (to quote a former member). So, I am not writing this without a strong base here. Not too long ago, I spoke with a person who shared with me how a particular young male (that we both know) "travels with Bishop (Long)." When she told me this, IMMEDIATELY my intuition said, "not good." But I couldn't say anything to her because she is a proud member of New Birth and she loves her "Bishop." She was so proud over the fact that this young person "travels with Bishop" that if I had shared with her what was taking place in my intuition she would have seen me as the enemy.
People, what have we become? When a religious leader can build and establish an academy (that seems to me to be nothing more than a facade for a breeding ground) that grooms young males to live on the down low...what have we become? What about the single mothers who entrusted their teenage sons to an academy with a sexual predator at the helm (along with those who work with him); all the while hoping that her son will receive the guidance and support that he needs to become a young "man," but instead he is preyed upon by someone who strategically gains the trust of her innocent teenage son, only to pounce on him when the time is right, while showering him with a Range Rover, a BMW, a Hummer, a condominium, expensive jewelry, and inter-continental trips where this predator commits all kinds of unthinkable sexual acts on these teenage males? And then we dare to vilify these young victims? What have we become? What happened to us?
At present, FOUR different young men have come forth! Are all of these young males lying? Why would they do that? People it is no secret (at least here in the Atlanta area) that New Birth Baptist Church is the "palace of homosexuality" (to quote another former member)!
TAKE THE BLINDERS OFF YOUR EYES! FOR THE SAKE OF OUR YOUTH...PLEASE TAKE THE BLINDERS OFF YOUR EYES!!! How many more teenagers will have to come forth before you realize that you have been under the leadership of a sexual predator on our children? How many? Will 1 more do? Or maybe 2 more? How many? So that you can say to each other, "Well, you know, Bishop said he wasn't perfect." Next, you will be saying if he is that way, his behavior is covered under the blood of Jesus Christ! After all, that IS what is taught in Christianity! ALL your sins (oral sodomy, child molestation, sexual coercion, etc.) have been covered by the blood and "there is therefore now no condemnation" (judgment) because he has been "justified by faith." I bet if it happens to your child all of those bible verses will completely disappear and become absolutely meaningless.
Parents, if you don't wake up and open your eyes, you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Our children deserve to be protected better than this. What are we to do, when our children think that we are NOT going to protect them? But rather attack them, and assassinate their character because they have been victimized by a sick, twisted, socially and politically powerful religious leader, who is a multimillionaire with friends in high places. Do we just throw them away because they are unknown and insignificant young people? Do we just let them suffer without coming to their rescue? If that is the case, then be prepared for damnation (because you will certainly deserve it)!
Let me warn you now! If we do not hear the cry of these young people who have been victimized by (what is in my opinion) a cross-wearing sexual predator, then stand by and prepare yourself for their retribution. Imagine what might happen when their anger can no longer be contained because they lived with the agony of after having opened up and asked us to protect them...we didn't!
In my previous post I stated that the rippling effect of this matter with Eddie Long is far reaching. The tentacles of this sickness are not just limited to Eddie Long, but several other prominent and renown religious leaders and gospel musicians as well. I encourage you to listen to Carlton Pearson's interview on CNN about this matter and homosexuality in the church. Carlton Pearson (who knows Eddie Long quite well) stated, "Bishop Long is just the tip of the iceberg." He actually said that! Listen to the interview for yourself at: http://newsroom.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/27/pastor-preaches-inclusion-of-gays/?iref=allsearch or go to: cnn.com and type in the search box "Pastor Preaches Inclusion Of Gays."
As Eddie Long concluded his comments, he said (a second time) "I am not a perfect man, but this thing, I'm gonna fight;" and everyone leaped to their feet cheering him on. Then he said, "I feel like David fighting Goliath. And I've got 5 stones and I haven't thrown the first one yet." Then he arrogantly threw the microphone down and walked off the stage. The congregation was about to go into conniptions at that point. I wanted to know who was thinking about the innocent victims and their families?
Let me tell you my version of David & Goliath in this matter. I submit that the giant, "Goliath," is Eddie Long! For he's the one who is so powerful, with plenty of money for the best lawyers, influence with the right people, and fame that makes others not see him for what he really is. Yes...Eddie Long is the giant in THIS situation. The young men who don't have 25,000 members to stand with them are "David" (in my mind). And according to the story, David picked up "5 smooth [young] stones" to slay Goliath with. Well, maybe when the next victim comes forth...that will be the fifth stone for this Goliath known as Eddie Long.
As Carlton Pearson made VERY clear in his interview, Eddie Long is just "the tip of the iceberg" of the homosexuality in the church (and he certainly would know). But, personally, I am not concerned with what gay adult men and women do with each other. That's their business. As long as they don't present it to me, we won't have a problem. But under NO circumstances should we tolerate our youth being victimized by such activity without maximum retaliation (from the warriors in our communities) against the perpetrator(s). If we don't come to the defense of our children...who will!
Monday, September 27, 2010, 10:36:35 PM Ray Hagins
Sunday I tuned in (as did thousands of others) to hear what Eddie Long was going to say. After having to watch more than an hour of what I didn't tune in for, he finally emerged with his wife. This, in and of itself (in my opinion), was an act of disrespect to the thousands of people who were there because (if we would be honest) EVERYONE wanted to hear only one thing...and one thing only...and that was what they had waited all week to hear him say. This man talked for almost 25 minutes and STILL DID NOT SAY the 4 words that his audience was craving to hear. He knew that these thousands of people, who love him and arrived as early as 5:00 a.m., stood in line for hours to be sure to get a seat up close and personal. They did not come to hear a sermon! All they wanted to hear him say was..."I DIDN'T DO IT!" If he had said just those 4 words, his followers would have left with the strength and determination to stand with their leader. BUT HE DID NOT SAY IT! And based on what I have come to learn...HE COULDN'T SAY IT!
As I watched and listened to Eddie Long making his comments to (as he said) "the world," I was absolutely infuriated by the words that he had the unmitigated audacity to say. After a rambling discourse on "How To Handle Painful and Difficult Situations," this person opened his mouth and said, "I have never in my life presented myself as a perfect man." WHAT!?!?
It's real simple Eddie Long! You have been accused of molesting 4 young males. (Only you and God know how many others. According to discussions that I have had with people who are very close to this situation and its history, it is expected to be as many as 35 to 40 others who are expected to come forth. But, FOR NOW, it is only 4!) And the first thing out of your mouth is..."I have never presented myself to be a perfect man!?!?!?" It would have been more appreciated and not as insulting to our intellect if you had pleaded the 5th and said, "Due to the fact that this matter is in litigation, I decline to make any statements at this time on the grounds that it might incriminate me." At least that would have been a more intelligent statement than..."I am not a perfect man." Eddie Long incriminated himself with those words alone and everyone knows it!
Now, let's deal with the words "a perfect man" for a moment...
According to the theological perspectives that are taught in Christianity, the idea or concept of being "perfect" (teleios) means being "full grown, adult, of full age, mature." It has absolutely nothing to do with being flawless. So, by saying "I am not a perfect man," Eddie Long is saying that he is NOT "full grown, adult, of full age, mature?" According to the precepts of theological thought, the very position that Eddie Long (and every other pastor) holds mandates him to be "perfect" (teleios). Now, Eddie Long (as well as every other pastor) is fully aware of what I just explained in this paragraph. The average church member may not know this...but pastors do! So, his own words have disqualified him to hold the position that he now holds.
Furthermore, we all need to understand that there is not a "man" on this planet who, if accused of molesting 4 male youth, would not IMMEDIATELY say, "I did NOT do that." He would say this first and foremost...NOT..."I am not a perfect man!" Come on people, if you would only stop idolizing for 3 seconds, your spirit would say to you, "there's something wrong here, and it's not these young males who have filed these charges."
Now, with reference to these young male victims (because this article is really not about Eddie Long), let's take a closer look at these young males and the unjust attacks of "church folks" toward them! All eyes are on Eddie Long...but what about the young males who have come forth and unveiled the embarrassing, horrific, tragic, and damaging acts committed against them? What about the emotional and spiritual state and well being of these young males? How dare ANYONE say..."WE ARE WITH YOU BISHOP?" Who is with these young male victims? I have heard people (young and old) in support of Eddie Long say, "I believe him" or "That man loves his wife" or "We shouldn't be judging him." WHO IS SHOWING SUPPORT FOR THE YOUNG MALES WHOSE LIVES HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY DAMAGED BY THIS PREDATOR? WHY AREN'T YOU "SAINTS" REACHING OUT TO THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU! THESE ARE OUR CHILDREN! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IF AND WHEN YOU FIND OUT THAT ONE OF HIS VICTIMS WAS YOUR SON OR GRANDSON? (Okay, let me stop shouting...)
As a pastor and therapist, I have counseled far more young men than I care to remember who have been victimized by religious leaders or people in leadership positions in the church. Many of the victims that I have counseled became perpetrators of the very horror that was inflicted upon them. In fact, 7 out of 10 sodomizers were sodomized in their pre-teen and teenage years by someone they trusted? So, when it comes to these young male victims of Eddie Long...Are you concerned about their healing? Or are you so blind that you think that these young men brought this on themselves and they got what they deserved?
This evening I was in a restaurant (not to far from Eddie Long's church) and overheard one lady say, "These young people today are so fast and loose that they probably brought this on themselves because Bishop is a man of God." I was glad that I had already eaten my meal because at that point I had to leave. This is why I am angry --- because of people like her who compulsively see Eddie Long as their Christ (even though they would never admit to such).
As previously stated, I have talked to several people who have first-hand knowledge of the events and tragedies that have been taking place at New Birth for "at least 15 years or more" (to quote a former member). So, I am not writing this without a strong base here. Not too long ago, I spoke with a person who shared with me how a particular young male (that we both know) "travels with Bishop (Long)." When she told me this, IMMEDIATELY my intuition said, "not good." But I couldn't say anything to her because she is a proud member of New Birth and she loves her "Bishop." She was so proud over the fact that this young person "travels with Bishop" that if I had shared with her what was taking place in my intuition she would have seen me as the enemy.
People, what have we become? When a religious leader can build and establish an academy (that seems to me to be nothing more than a facade for a breeding ground) that grooms young males to live on the down low...what have we become? What about the single mothers who entrusted their teenage sons to an academy with a sexual predator at the helm (along with those who work with him); all the while hoping that her son will receive the guidance and support that he needs to become a young "man," but instead he is preyed upon by someone who strategically gains the trust of her innocent teenage son, only to pounce on him when the time is right, while showering him with a Range Rover, a BMW, a Hummer, a condominium, expensive jewelry, and inter-continental trips where this predator commits all kinds of unthinkable sexual acts on these teenage males? And then we dare to vilify these young victims? What have we become? What happened to us?
At present, FOUR different young men have come forth! Are all of these young males lying? Why would they do that? People it is no secret (at least here in the Atlanta area) that New Birth Baptist Church is the "palace of homosexuality" (to quote another former member)!
TAKE THE BLINDERS OFF YOUR EYES! FOR THE SAKE OF OUR YOUTH...PLEASE TAKE THE BLINDERS OFF YOUR EYES!!! How many more teenagers will have to come forth before you realize that you have been under the leadership of a sexual predator on our children? How many? Will 1 more do? Or maybe 2 more? How many? So that you can say to each other, "Well, you know, Bishop said he wasn't perfect." Next, you will be saying if he is that way, his behavior is covered under the blood of Jesus Christ! After all, that IS what is taught in Christianity! ALL your sins (oral sodomy, child molestation, sexual coercion, etc.) have been covered by the blood and "there is therefore now no condemnation" (judgment) because he has been "justified by faith." I bet if it happens to your child all of those bible verses will completely disappear and become absolutely meaningless.
Parents, if you don't wake up and open your eyes, you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Our children deserve to be protected better than this. What are we to do, when our children think that we are NOT going to protect them? But rather attack them, and assassinate their character because they have been victimized by a sick, twisted, socially and politically powerful religious leader, who is a multimillionaire with friends in high places. Do we just throw them away because they are unknown and insignificant young people? Do we just let them suffer without coming to their rescue? If that is the case, then be prepared for damnation (because you will certainly deserve it)!
Let me warn you now! If we do not hear the cry of these young people who have been victimized by (what is in my opinion) a cross-wearing sexual predator, then stand by and prepare yourself for their retribution. Imagine what might happen when their anger can no longer be contained because they lived with the agony of after having opened up and asked us to protect them...we didn't!
In my previous post I stated that the rippling effect of this matter with Eddie Long is far reaching. The tentacles of this sickness are not just limited to Eddie Long, but several other prominent and renown religious leaders and gospel musicians as well. I encourage you to listen to Carlton Pearson's interview on CNN about this matter and homosexuality in the church. Carlton Pearson (who knows Eddie Long quite well) stated, "Bishop Long is just the tip of the iceberg." He actually said that! Listen to the interview for yourself at: http://newsroom.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/27/pastor-preaches-inclusion-of-gays/?iref=allsearch or go to: cnn.com and type in the search box "Pastor Preaches Inclusion Of Gays."
As Eddie Long concluded his comments, he said (a second time) "I am not a perfect man, but this thing, I'm gonna fight;" and everyone leaped to their feet cheering him on. Then he said, "I feel like David fighting Goliath. And I've got 5 stones and I haven't thrown the first one yet." Then he arrogantly threw the microphone down and walked off the stage. The congregation was about to go into conniptions at that point. I wanted to know who was thinking about the innocent victims and their families?
Let me tell you my version of David & Goliath in this matter. I submit that the giant, "Goliath," is Eddie Long! For he's the one who is so powerful, with plenty of money for the best lawyers, influence with the right people, and fame that makes others not see him for what he really is. Yes...Eddie Long is the giant in THIS situation. The young men who don't have 25,000 members to stand with them are "David" (in my mind). And according to the story, David picked up "5 smooth [young] stones" to slay Goliath with. Well, maybe when the next victim comes forth...that will be the fifth stone for this Goliath known as Eddie Long.
As Carlton Pearson made VERY clear in his interview, Eddie Long is just "the tip of the iceberg" of the homosexuality in the church (and he certainly would know). But, personally, I am not concerned with what gay adult men and women do with each other. That's their business. As long as they don't present it to me, we won't have a problem. But under NO circumstances should we tolerate our youth being victimized by such activity without maximum retaliation (from the warriors in our communities) against the perpetrator(s). If we don't come to the defense of our children...who will!
Sick, Church, Sex "Stuff" (Eddie Long)
How Deep Does This Hole Go?
by Ray Hagins on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 at 10:05am
I have received numerous email, inquiries and comments about my posts concerning this matter with Eddie Long. Most have been “thank you” notes for expressing what they have been feeling for so long. A few have been rebukes for being what they consider to be “judgmental” on my part.
The reason why I have spent such an inordinate amount of time on this issue is because I am glad that it is coming out! I am saddened for the victims of this predator, but I am so glad that this is coming to the forefront so that people can begin to see things as they really are. Unfortunately, many will choose NOT to see because of the love that they have for their leaders. There is an adage that says, “There is none so blind as he who WILL NOT see!” I fear that this will be the case for many.
This is a very sensitive area for me primarily for 2 reasons: (1) As a PK (pastor’s kid) I grew up around and saw so much of this kind of mess in the church that it sickens me. (2) As a clinician and therapist I have to deal with trying to heal many of the victims of such predatory behavior. There is not a month that goes by that I don’t get calls from someone who was victimized by someone they trusted. Many of the people that I treat are suffering repressed traumatic syndrome that is now beginning to surface from stuff that happened years ago. 40% of people that come to me were sexually assaulted by their pastor, their youth leader or the minister of music at some point in their lives. So, when this matter of Eddie Long became public it gave me the opportunity to express and release what I have kept bottled up in me for years due to my obligation to the rules of confidentiality.
I will never forget one Monday morning in March of 2005, a pastor called me and said, "I believe God has cursed my ministry." I asked her why she would think such a thing. She said, "Because of the things that happened in my church, that I should have addressed... but I didn't! And now sickness and disease is running wild in my church." Being the kind of woman she was (she is now deceased), she didn’t want to hurt anyone and was under the pressure of not knowing how to handle the issue of homosexuality in her congregation. Several parents had come to her because the minister of music had molested their sons. Not wanting to lose her minister of music or cause harm and embarrassment to anyone, she told the parents, "Let's pray about it and let the Lord handle this." Needless to say, each of those parents removed their membership from the church. The minister of music, his wife, and several of his victims and partners have since died from AIDS.
I could hear the stress in that pastor’s voice from having carried this emotional load of “if only I had done this or that.” I tried to give effective counsel, but I could hear that it was eating away at her. April 2, 2005 she suffered a massive aneurysm and passed away several days later.
I also knew of pastors who had a "collection" of males and females that they not only use in a twisted sexual manner, but offered them to their guest ministers to "service" or "accommodate" them while they are in town. So, understand, I didn't leave the church only because the doctrine was wrong; another reason I left is because I got fed up with having to encounter gay pastors and bishops everywhere I went.
As a national evangelist in a major Pentecostal denomination, state minister of music, and gospel recording artist I have seen it all…up close and personal and it is sickening. To this day I cannot listen to many of the most popular gospel artists because I know them and what they do when they are not on stage. I thank God (with all my being) for putting a fence of protection around me by not getting involved and caught up in that mess.
When I returned to the pulpit by accepting the position of "pastor" of the congregation where I now serve, I was reminded of this sickness that I had been out of the presence of for more than 5 years. At first I was welcomed into the fellowship of pastors in St. Louis. This one pastor took me around and introduced me to all the prominent pastors in the area. Then I began to notice that all of the pastors that he was introducing me to were gay! So, I thought I had better drop a hint on him (just in case he was gay) that I don't play that. He said to me, "Dr. Hagins you need to know these men that I'm introducing you to because this is St. Louis man, and you need to know the right people here."
A couple of weeks later, I was invited to a ministers meeting at this same pastor's office. Being that I had video production equipment he asked me if I would make copies of the video that he was going to show at this meeting for the other pastors. I told him that I would. I was thinking that we were going to meet about developing pastoral skills, community development, perhaps a coalition endeavor, or something like that. When I arrived at this pastor’s church, about 12 of St. Louis' PROMINENT Black pastors were there (all dressed down and relaxed). After about 20 minutes the host pastor said, "We'll brethren let’s get started, and he walked over to the VHS player and put in a tape. I was SHOCKED when I saw the title come across the screen. "Big, Black, and Long." I mean a XXX rated video! I thought to myself, "What the _____ is this? A few minutes later my pager went off and I told them that I had to leave. I later confronted the host pastor about this and explained to him that we have no further reason to fellowship. These were all Black Baptist pastors! This happened in August of 1998.
In October of 1998 the mayor of St. Louis had a meeting in his office with the clergy coalition (of which I was a member). As we were leaving the mayor's office, one of St. Louis’ most prominent Black pastors said to me in the elevator, "Dr. Hagins, we would like to meet with you." I asked, "About what?" He then told me that this pastor (who had hosted this XXX rated video meeting) felt that we should meet at his office to discuss what I am teaching in my pulpit. I told him that they didn't have anything to do with that because it's my pulpit and I will teach what I will.
These Black pastors in St. Louis (led by the same man who hosted this XXX rated video meeting) met and came against me to try to have me removed from my church. I was told by the pastor who spoke to me in the elevator that I would find myself “isolated from the clergy community" in St. Louis. And that is exactly how it has been since then. ALL of the Black pastors in St. Louis began to tell their congregations to avoid going over to New Ephesus (at that time) --- a stigma that we still suffer from today. Unfortunately, in St. Louis, The Afrikan Village has been so vilified by other Black pastors that it is difficult for us to grow as I would like for us to. But so be it!
Again, I MUST refer you to Carlton Pearson's words when he said on CNN that, "Eddie Long is just the tip of the iceberg." He was trying to tell everybody how deep this hole goes, but I don’t think people really want to see it. After you read this article, cut and paste the following link to see Bishop Pearson’s interview about gays in the church. His statement about Eddie Long is near the end of the interview. http://newsroom.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/27/pastor-preaches-inclusion-of-gays/
The entire reason why I had to begin using a security team is because Black PASTORS were threatening to stop me "one way or another." People this is much more serious than many people realize. There is a strong fraternity (for a lack of a better word) among these Black pastors who are into this activity. But then again, that's the warfare!
[SPECIAL NOTE: I need to say at this point, that not all pastors are participants in this type of behavior. I am so glad that I know many more pastors who are good, honest and sincere men and women than I know those who are mentally sick. So, please do not think that ALL pastors are no good and can’t be trusted.]
When I wrote the oath to the Ancestors (that we recite in The Afrikan Village every time we gather for fellowship), I included the following words:
"O Ancestors...Now, stand with us; strengthen us; guide us; teach us, and protect us from the snare of our enemies! Rise up, O Afrikan Ancestors, and let our enemies be scattered! And give us the wisdom and the boldness to deal with our oppressors and THOSE WHO WOULD HINDER THE LIBERATION AND EMPOWERMENT OF OUR PEOPLE. Rise up, O Afrikan Ancestors, and live in us. We will not fail to honor you; We will not fail to respect you; We will not fail to hear you; And we will NOT betray you! Ase." (for those who would like a copy of our Oath To The Ancestors I will post it under another cover).
When I wrote these words I wasn't talking about white people (as many people think)! I was talking about the Eddie Longs and other prominent bishops, pastors and leaders among us who are hindering the liberation and empowerment of our people.
How deep does this hole go? Much deeper than many church folks are ready to know.
by Ray Hagins on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 at 10:05am
I have received numerous email, inquiries and comments about my posts concerning this matter with Eddie Long. Most have been “thank you” notes for expressing what they have been feeling for so long. A few have been rebukes for being what they consider to be “judgmental” on my part.
The reason why I have spent such an inordinate amount of time on this issue is because I am glad that it is coming out! I am saddened for the victims of this predator, but I am so glad that this is coming to the forefront so that people can begin to see things as they really are. Unfortunately, many will choose NOT to see because of the love that they have for their leaders. There is an adage that says, “There is none so blind as he who WILL NOT see!” I fear that this will be the case for many.
This is a very sensitive area for me primarily for 2 reasons: (1) As a PK (pastor’s kid) I grew up around and saw so much of this kind of mess in the church that it sickens me. (2) As a clinician and therapist I have to deal with trying to heal many of the victims of such predatory behavior. There is not a month that goes by that I don’t get calls from someone who was victimized by someone they trusted. Many of the people that I treat are suffering repressed traumatic syndrome that is now beginning to surface from stuff that happened years ago. 40% of people that come to me were sexually assaulted by their pastor, their youth leader or the minister of music at some point in their lives. So, when this matter of Eddie Long became public it gave me the opportunity to express and release what I have kept bottled up in me for years due to my obligation to the rules of confidentiality.
I will never forget one Monday morning in March of 2005, a pastor called me and said, "I believe God has cursed my ministry." I asked her why she would think such a thing. She said, "Because of the things that happened in my church, that I should have addressed... but I didn't! And now sickness and disease is running wild in my church." Being the kind of woman she was (she is now deceased), she didn’t want to hurt anyone and was under the pressure of not knowing how to handle the issue of homosexuality in her congregation. Several parents had come to her because the minister of music had molested their sons. Not wanting to lose her minister of music or cause harm and embarrassment to anyone, she told the parents, "Let's pray about it and let the Lord handle this." Needless to say, each of those parents removed their membership from the church. The minister of music, his wife, and several of his victims and partners have since died from AIDS.
I could hear the stress in that pastor’s voice from having carried this emotional load of “if only I had done this or that.” I tried to give effective counsel, but I could hear that it was eating away at her. April 2, 2005 she suffered a massive aneurysm and passed away several days later.
I also knew of pastors who had a "collection" of males and females that they not only use in a twisted sexual manner, but offered them to their guest ministers to "service" or "accommodate" them while they are in town. So, understand, I didn't leave the church only because the doctrine was wrong; another reason I left is because I got fed up with having to encounter gay pastors and bishops everywhere I went.
As a national evangelist in a major Pentecostal denomination, state minister of music, and gospel recording artist I have seen it all…up close and personal and it is sickening. To this day I cannot listen to many of the most popular gospel artists because I know them and what they do when they are not on stage. I thank God (with all my being) for putting a fence of protection around me by not getting involved and caught up in that mess.
When I returned to the pulpit by accepting the position of "pastor" of the congregation where I now serve, I was reminded of this sickness that I had been out of the presence of for more than 5 years. At first I was welcomed into the fellowship of pastors in St. Louis. This one pastor took me around and introduced me to all the prominent pastors in the area. Then I began to notice that all of the pastors that he was introducing me to were gay! So, I thought I had better drop a hint on him (just in case he was gay) that I don't play that. He said to me, "Dr. Hagins you need to know these men that I'm introducing you to because this is St. Louis man, and you need to know the right people here."
A couple of weeks later, I was invited to a ministers meeting at this same pastor's office. Being that I had video production equipment he asked me if I would make copies of the video that he was going to show at this meeting for the other pastors. I told him that I would. I was thinking that we were going to meet about developing pastoral skills, community development, perhaps a coalition endeavor, or something like that. When I arrived at this pastor’s church, about 12 of St. Louis' PROMINENT Black pastors were there (all dressed down and relaxed). After about 20 minutes the host pastor said, "We'll brethren let’s get started, and he walked over to the VHS player and put in a tape. I was SHOCKED when I saw the title come across the screen. "Big, Black, and Long." I mean a XXX rated video! I thought to myself, "What the _____ is this? A few minutes later my pager went off and I told them that I had to leave. I later confronted the host pastor about this and explained to him that we have no further reason to fellowship. These were all Black Baptist pastors! This happened in August of 1998.
In October of 1998 the mayor of St. Louis had a meeting in his office with the clergy coalition (of which I was a member). As we were leaving the mayor's office, one of St. Louis’ most prominent Black pastors said to me in the elevator, "Dr. Hagins, we would like to meet with you." I asked, "About what?" He then told me that this pastor (who had hosted this XXX rated video meeting) felt that we should meet at his office to discuss what I am teaching in my pulpit. I told him that they didn't have anything to do with that because it's my pulpit and I will teach what I will.
These Black pastors in St. Louis (led by the same man who hosted this XXX rated video meeting) met and came against me to try to have me removed from my church. I was told by the pastor who spoke to me in the elevator that I would find myself “isolated from the clergy community" in St. Louis. And that is exactly how it has been since then. ALL of the Black pastors in St. Louis began to tell their congregations to avoid going over to New Ephesus (at that time) --- a stigma that we still suffer from today. Unfortunately, in St. Louis, The Afrikan Village has been so vilified by other Black pastors that it is difficult for us to grow as I would like for us to. But so be it!
Again, I MUST refer you to Carlton Pearson's words when he said on CNN that, "Eddie Long is just the tip of the iceberg." He was trying to tell everybody how deep this hole goes, but I don’t think people really want to see it. After you read this article, cut and paste the following link to see Bishop Pearson’s interview about gays in the church. His statement about Eddie Long is near the end of the interview. http://newsroom.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/27/pastor-preaches-inclusion-of-gays/
The entire reason why I had to begin using a security team is because Black PASTORS were threatening to stop me "one way or another." People this is much more serious than many people realize. There is a strong fraternity (for a lack of a better word) among these Black pastors who are into this activity. But then again, that's the warfare!
[SPECIAL NOTE: I need to say at this point, that not all pastors are participants in this type of behavior. I am so glad that I know many more pastors who are good, honest and sincere men and women than I know those who are mentally sick. So, please do not think that ALL pastors are no good and can’t be trusted.]
When I wrote the oath to the Ancestors (that we recite in The Afrikan Village every time we gather for fellowship), I included the following words:
"O Ancestors...Now, stand with us; strengthen us; guide us; teach us, and protect us from the snare of our enemies! Rise up, O Afrikan Ancestors, and let our enemies be scattered! And give us the wisdom and the boldness to deal with our oppressors and THOSE WHO WOULD HINDER THE LIBERATION AND EMPOWERMENT OF OUR PEOPLE. Rise up, O Afrikan Ancestors, and live in us. We will not fail to honor you; We will not fail to respect you; We will not fail to hear you; And we will NOT betray you! Ase." (for those who would like a copy of our Oath To The Ancestors I will post it under another cover).
When I wrote these words I wasn't talking about white people (as many people think)! I was talking about the Eddie Longs and other prominent bishops, pastors and leaders among us who are hindering the liberation and empowerment of our people.
How deep does this hole go? Much deeper than many church folks are ready to know.
Monday, April 20, 2009
Sex "Stuff" or Sick "Stuff" (Anus - Dead Body)
Ok, I think this is a dead body. Anyway it has RINGWORMS coming out of its anus.
GAG!
I DONT KNOW... I dont know how this happens.
Sex "Stuff" (Oral sex is a sin)
These are ALL images of people with syphilis on/in thier mouth. You know they got this ORAL SEX!
Oral sex is a sin.....Y.U.C.K.
Tuesday, April 14, 2009
Sex "Stuff" (Vagina has huge hat)
This is truly the worst picture I have EVER seen of a veneral disease.
HOW IN THE HELL DID IT GET TO THIS POINT?
My educated guess, is that an operation had to be done.
(Will it grow back?)
No Words.
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
OK. OK. But how has she been walking?
She couldn't have been able to walk or sit?
Please know that my heart goes out to this women and others like her.....
NO WORDS. (And I always have an opinion)
HOW IN THE HELL DID IT GET TO THIS POINT?
My educated guess, is that an operation had to be done.
(Will it grow back?)
No Words.
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
OK. OK. But how has she been walking?
She couldn't have been able to walk or sit?
Please know that my heart goes out to this women and others like her.....
NO WORDS. (And I always have an opinion)
Sex "Stuff" (Penis nightmare)
Yes people, this is a picture of Genital Warts on a penis.
Take a long hard look.
I know someone of you have seen this on your partner's Ding Dong but still sucked/rode like there was no tomorrow.
*SMH2LSE* (shake my head 2 low self esteem)
Take a long hard look.
I know someone of you have seen this on your partner's Ding Dong but still sucked/rode like there was no tomorrow.
*SMH2LSE* (shake my head 2 low self esteem)
Sunday, April 12, 2009
Sex "Stuff" (Vagina.....)
Sexually Transmitted Disease
People, I gagged and gagged and gagged looking at these photos.
People, I gagged and gagged and gagged looking at these photos.
Can you imagine looking in your mouth, anus, vagina, penis and seeing this..........
Jesus is a Healer!!!
People stop "layin up" with someone so that you will not be alone.
Better to be alone than to contract WARTS.
If you are that afraid/needy to be alone, I suggest medication for depression/anxiety, developing your sense of self and a good old fashion dose of JESUS!
Like Yourself. Love Yourself. Be a Friend to Yourself.
Sex "Stuff" (Mouth Issues)
Genital Warts on the mouth
I got these off the web.
I got these off the web.
Jesus be a Healer!!!
These pictures show Warts on the genitals and mouth.
Look, this type of nastiness can be avoided.
Stop screwing any old body, stop cheating, stop with the oral sex, stop having sex with folks you DON'T TRUST.
Most times, people bring things on themselves. Keep playing..........
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